Green Day's Project Graveyard

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I don’t necessarily think this is a bad thing. We know Billie Joe is hugely creative and never really stops so he must constantly have new ideas and of course, many of them don’t come to fruition. I would rather think of the positives, we have Pinhead Gunpowder, the Network, FHTB, the Longshot, Oakland Coffee, he’s had clothing lines, record stores, written stuff with and for other people, it’s quite a lot if you list it all.

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I don’t know which I would rather have seen, the American Idiot movie or the horror flick they talked about in the nineties.

To add something, Billie did promise a music video for Forever Now that Sam Bayer was to direct (and he did direct a first video for Father Of All that was scrapped before it was finalized)

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Wow interesting article I hadn’t heard of some of these. Really would have loved to have got the photo book and it would be cool if the x-rated Christmas album comes out some day but I doubt it ever will.

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Unlike @pacejunkie, I know I would have loved the AI movie more, I hate horror movies. I don’t think I’ll ever get over not getting to see Billie Joe on Broadway, I consoled myself for years that at least the movie was coming! :sob::sob::sob:

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Omg, I did the same thing! I was so looking forward to seeing the AI movie.

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Yeah I think out of all of it the one I really feel robbed of is the AI movie

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I’m probably in the minority here but I’m kinda glad that the AI movie was scrapped. I don’t know why, maybe it’s because I wasn’t a massive fan of the musical, but as much as I hoped that it would turn out great I couldn’t help but feel like it would end up mediocre at best and incredibly out of touch at worst.

But, to be fair, if it actually was released I’d still be the first in line to watch it hahah

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I’m starting to think we can add the original 1972 project that was begun in London to the project graveyard. Whatever comes in 2024 may likely be something else entirely.

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I actually considered including it as a potential future lost project but I didn’t want to freak fans out. We also don’t know if that was a planned EP or something and they decided it was too good for an EP and brought those songs in for an album instead.

But as you’ve mentioned before, it’s gonna be very interesting to finally hear the story of what has been going on behind the scenes.

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Not necessarily a grave yard project but I wonder what happened to them considering recording Kerplunk since the master tapes were missing

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I still don’t buy the Cigs + Valentines story… a friend of the band told me BJ had written Money Money 2020 but didn’t know what to do with it, he was afraid people wouldn’t like it. Said friend tried to encourage him to put it out as the next GD record and say fuck what anyone thinks but ultimately they went the side project route. I think C+V was all made up, maybe to explain why their next album took longer than expected. Basically I don’t think that album really existed. And they had plenty of time to write that “title song” and play it live. Haha

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Not to discount your story from a friend of the band but I’ve heard that exact story for the Longshot album as well which seems a bit odd the band would keep rejecting Billie’s songs but would accept a lot of the stuff on the trilogy and foam.

Honestly, I’d buy the C&V album theory over Billie making some weird GD album about robots and shit that seems like it was written in the studio as they were making it just messing around. We know they were in the studio for months prior to pivoting to the Network and later AI because they did phone updates from the studio telling of its progress.

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It’s just my speculation. I was told this in 2016 while visiting the guy. Never heard any of that about The Longshot. And I/he never said the band or anyone else rejected anything. He said Billie was afraid people wouldn’t like it so he didn’t want to release it as GD.

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Someone on GDC that had a backstage meetup with the band once said they asked whether they would ever hear the C&V album and they were told that they have, that it’s the Network album. So it’s possible the scrapped GD project became The Network instead

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The story I heard about The Longshot was that the band had a serious difference of opinion over their next musical direction after RevRad and The Longshot songs weren’t considered the right move. So it became a side project, but there was some tension over that decision.

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Imagine The Longshot being a Green Day record.
How can the guys had a difference of opinion for what we have on The Longshot but being super happy with FOAM?

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But they’ve also said things that completely contradict that so I’m not sure I would put much stock in that. If you told me the latest Network album came from GD sessions, I would believe that completely since the Billie songs on that are great. But one look at the lyric sheet of the original album is all I need to be 100% confident in my own mind that it was never meant to be a GD album

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Well whatever it was, I’m glad Billie put it out there, I absolutely love that album. And I got to see them 3 times on their tour, the first night was in Bellingham, WA at a tiny venue where we were basically face to face with the band. At one point Billie was tuning and introducing a song and Jeff pointed to the setlist and Billie was like “Oh shit i’m skipping a song, I almost fucked up the whole show”. I go “get it together Billie”, and he laughed and said “get it together Billie… how many times did I hear that from my mom growing up? And I’d say, it’s Bill, mom. Call me Bill. And she’d say no, your name is Billie. Thanks, mom, you country bitch.” And then Jeff said “oh come on, Billie, your mom’s not that country!” :laughing:

Sorry that got away from me a little there. LOL

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I get that, but lyrics are easily changed to suit a different project. Wherever MM2020pt2 came from, I also love that album. I expect it came from “hey it’s a pandemic and we can’t tour, we did that thing with this year in the title, let’s write a sequel.”

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